SELANGOR PAS: BAN ALCOHOL IN MUSLIM AREAS
Malaysiakini | August 4, 2009 | 1:57pm
Selangor PAS wants the Pakatan Rakyat state government to implement a blanket ban on the sale of alcohol in all Muslim-majority areas.
Speaking at a press conference in Shah Alam, Selangor PAS commissioner Hasan Ali said the proposed ban will only concern Muslims and not impinge on the right of non-Muslims to consume alcohol.
Asked if the move would be unfair to non-Muslims living in Muslim-majority areas, the PAS leader said they would just have to travel further to get the beverages.
Hasan also called on the state government to switch the portfolio of DAP exco member Ronnie Liu, who has "meddled in Islamic affairs."
He said Liu, who oversees local councils, had misunderstood the ban and therefore overstepped his jurisdiction.
"We are disappointed when certain quarters intervene in our initiatives to control the sale of alcohol among Muslims," he added. [Source: Malaysiakini]

Hasan Ali could be Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Christian... any religion at all, makes no difference whatsoever. He would still be a Goddam Red-Faced Control Freak, hellbent on minding other people's business. Because that's how he gets his rocks off - exercising power over others.

I don't drink (well, very rarely anyway). If alcohol were to vanish off the face of the earth, I wouldn't notice. So this rant has nothing to do with defending the rights of those who enjoy a beer or two - or even a whole bottle of whisky. I'm just cheesed off that idiots like Hasan Ali are allowed to bring everybody down with their toxic hypocritical crap. It's evolutionary retards like him who sit in judgment of unmarried mothers and young lovers caught in the bushes by the fiendish religious police (what an absolute contradiction of terms!)
Hoy, Hasan Ali! Go ahead and believe whatever you like... but please keep your repugnant beliefs to yourself, instead of trying to ram them down everybody else's throats like some asinine Ayatollah.
Why don't you return to Umno and team up with your mentor, the jerk with two Muhammads in his name? You'd be doing us all a big favor, especially PAS.
I strongly suspect you're an Umno undercover agent and saboteur. The Pakatan Rakyat state government is busy fighting off scurrilous attacks led by Najib and Khir. You couldn't have picked a worse moment to spread more anxiety and suspicion amongst the non-Malay voters that PAS, just like Umno, is incapable of change. With "friends" like you and Ibrahim Ali and that silly Zul Noordin, who needs political enemies?
Folks like you will NEVER - I repeat, NEVER - make it through the frequency gates of paradise. Because the only talent you possess is to create a living hell on earth.
With apologies to the late Frank Zappa: "Heya, Hasan! Stick a finger up your ass and sniff it for Harry Belafonte!"
We should all send death threats against the likes of Hassan, Ibrahim and Zul Nordin.
ReplyDeleteTrue Islam is not them.
They are worshippers of the evil cult called Wahhabism which was inaugurated by Genghis Khan and Ibnu Tayimiyah.
The Islam of today is Yasmin Ahmad, Tunku Abdul Rahman, RPK, Ku Li and Zaid Ibrahim.
Islam is New Age liberal thought as Rumi says.
The Quran and Hadis (Hadis from Bukhari and Muslim which are truly Sahih) are New Age Liberal thought as Rumi says.
Rumi and Al-Ghazali the real Islam.
Mosque Islam of today, since Mahathir time, is by and large Wahhabism from kafir Genghis Khan.
Kill all Wahhabi pigs.
They are the real Kafir on earth.
Tiada Wahhabi, dunia takkan mati.
Tiada Wahhabi, muncullah Islam sejati.
Macam world view Mr Antares. Sama-sama bahagia.
Cheers, from Dennis.
Haha, Dennis... no death threats, not into killing people no matter how ugly their thoughts (it's really just a problem of obsolete software, compounded by emotional trauma inflicted by ignorant control freak fathers who inherited Abrahamic patriarchal imprints, the sort of uptight robotic imprint that made Abe a willing glove-puppet of Yahweh, to the extent he was ready to sacrifice his own son to please his benighted bloodthirsty god!) Just had to blow off some steam, people like Hassan Ali are worse than fleas. Sooner or later, his hard drive will crash and he will be forced to upgrade anyhow :-)
ReplyDeleteHi Antares,
ReplyDeleteMay God bless you with health, wealth and prosperity so that you can always be around to speak out against racism, injustices, and just about anything and everything under the good old sun,that smacks of hypocrisy from moronic, mentally challenged individual/s out for their 5 mins of glory and fame.
This part of the world that I call home would just be peachy if all this moronic misfits would just do us all a great big favour by dropping off the face of the Earth like flies and spare us all the ridicule from the world at large.
Since that wish IS wishful thinking, I would like to say that "MAY THE FLIES OF A THOUSAND CAMELS BE UPON THEM"
You, Antares, Keep well, Sir.
I am so curious to know what exactly is a "Muslim Area"! Can someone enlighten me?
ReplyDeleteDont leave out the trouble maker in Wee Choo Keong too.
ReplyDeleteI would make them as fantasy four who thinks they are where they are today becuz they are themselves. Sorry bro....you are here today becuz your contested on PR platform under PAS and PKR.
Come GE13, we shall make it a point that all 4 of you will be out of thsi political scene and you can then bark as loud as you can.
Its sad to have such Malaysians among us. Guess they all belong to Najlis group and are all "SHIT"
Dear Anonymous who talk about wahabi.
ReplyDeleteI bet you are one of those who patronize the pub at Jalan P ramlee.. The so called liberal muslim.
You people cannot do with out alchohol.
I dont subscribe to wahabinism but
Wahabi or not, alchohol is forbidden in islam.
By all accounts you does know nothing about islam. Your statement show it all.
Better go check you head something is wrong inside.
In this case, why not also ban the cigerates, condom, viagra, tongkat ali, gambling outlets (3d,M,TOTO)and most of all KY jelly.. all these are related non halal. If 50m is restricted for those non halal in muslim-majority area, then I proposed we have to look into quarantine them to come out from that area. Because most non muslim-majority outlets are selling non halal goods. Don't come too close to those non muslim, they can influence you..
ReplyDeleteA very good thumbsup for this blogger. I like to read more of your news. Keep going. BRAVO !
ReplyDeleteI have never voted for BN since I am eligible to vote. But I have never seen supporter of BN behaving and so rude in giving opinion or challaging other people opinion.
ReplyDeleteI want pakatan to rule but I dont agree with people like you. The muslim like me and they are the majority will never allow people like you to behave like you do.
Pakatan will never rule if people like you are still around.
On matter like this there is no party for Muslim. Muslim willing to die for the cause if people like you persist.
People like you make UMNO is still relervant.
Ali, how many do you think the 80% actually do NOT consume alcohol in the first place?! Why not work from down there before getting way way over your head?!
ReplyDeleteIf you really want to be so damn holy, my advice to also STOP selling alcohols in 80% populated hypermarkets as well? What about excluding ALL muslims to get/participate in the entertainment businesses too? What about clubs/pubs to NOT allow muslims in the premises too?
If you want to do it right, go all the way...!
I think Hassan Ali talk bullshit.
ReplyDeleteDoes he mean now there is no law against Muslim buying alcohol?
Hassan Ali stop this fucking buulshit.
At 7-11, they even put chain on the batteries so only 7-11 staff can take it out so definitely 7-11 can lock all their alcohol and sell to only non Muslim.
If Hassan Ali is truthful and sincere he can make sure all 7-11 or any shop selling alcohol make sure control sale only to non Muslim.
But Hassan Ali got hidden agenda to fuck non Muslim rights that's why he want to ban alcohol.
If this go on Hassan Ali may ban all out other rights as well.
Hassan Ali talk fucking bullshit because Selangor already got laws to ban sale of alcohol to Muslims
Thats the whole problem in Bolehland. Anyone in some uniform with a little power seems to be raiding one thing or another, or knocking on doors catching couples making love or whatever. And also claimed to do it in the name of religion.
ReplyDeleteWorse is , if others protests, all hell broke loose, so and so is anti this and that.
If only those holier than thou can just hold on to their precious dicks, and practice whatever they believe in private and leave all others alone. Faith, is I belief, between the individual and God.
There will always be shithead like that PAS fella.
ReplyDeleteI just cannot understand why he cannot control himself? I sometimes enjoy a drink or two with friends but most times we just have coffees.
But I often pass this liquor shop every time I'm in town but I don't find any urge to rush in to buy.
In fact if That fellow wants to wagger with me I can do without a drink the whole year with no problem.
Just why cannot he control himself? I don't understand!uduring
stop this conversation!
ReplyDeleteAll Ronnie is doing is to defend the legal right of non-muslims to buy beer.
ReplyDeleteHow the hell can this Ass from Pas construe this as meddling in islamic affairs?
This Ali guy is SO Windows 95, when everyone else is already OSX! Drink or nor drink, it's up to the individual. By banning this n that is pointless in an open society. What about women who wear trousers? Next? Bring back stoning?
ReplyDeleteBondi
Love your balls!
ReplyDeleteBondi
Next, there will be a ban on Swine flu. Hmmm is swine flu halal? I wonder. Does catching the flu make a Muslim haram?
ReplyDeleteThis is all about after life,
ReplyDeleteWhy not these scholars find the way for heaven quickly to meet the 72 virgins, leaving others to have their normal life at Earth.
whatever..but ronnie the gengstar must kick out.he should stay with bn,
ReplyDeletefrom:
Toyota dealer
Like Lita, I too immediately wondered what a 'muslim-majority area' is! I hope he'll enlighten me, and others, who may be wondering.
ReplyDeleteThen, I'm always miffed when people decide what I can and canNOT do - and go so far as to tell me where to go to do it! Sheesh!
This is a very worrying development that could spread like wildfire throughout Malaysia. I personally think this alcohol issue is between the follower of Islam and his God. If Islam forbids the consumption of alcohol, and a follower flouts this law then he has to answer to his God, not to Man. Why are we becoming so intolerant?
ReplyDeleteRonnie Liu is the real evil. Is banning alcohol a problem to him? Then stopping corruption will be a problem to him too.
ReplyDeleteHe is real evil with 2 tounges... one say corruption is bad but the other tounge says alocohol is good... fuck u man...
Stoopid Ronnie Liu... where is your PR spirit? Just another scumbag imitating Kedah DAP Chairman...
ReplyDeleteHow come Ronnie become ppl rep, but still do not know other religions?
This Ali guy is SO Windows 95, when everyone else is already OSX! Drink or nor drink, it's up to the individual. By banning this n that is pointless in an open society. What about women who wear trousers? Next? Bring back stoning?
ReplyDeleteApa punya remarks ni? Don't just comments like a moron. Learn about Islam first. Who says women can't wear trousers? Drink or not drink? It's not really about individual, it's about religion, it's about your faith. You are what you eat....
Fuck Ronnie Liu... you just made urself a sonofbitch....
ReplyDeleteQ."Who says women can't wear trousers?"
ReplyDeleteA : Read the (international) news...(hint) in Sudan
Q. "Drink or not drink? It's not really about individual, it's about religion, it's about your faith."
A. Yes, precisely. You teach faith in Churches and Mosques...not at 7/11s. And most definitely, not by the stick or banning things
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/5956721/Whip-me-if-you-dare-says-Lubna-Hussein-Sudans-defiant-trouser-woman.html
ReplyDeleteAntares
ReplyDeleteYou have taken all the choice words to describe this moron (except this word). I am not supportive of any political parties as I think mostly scum become a politician. What really gets me is the sanctimonious posters who feint piety in commenting against you. This is your blog and you can say whatever you like. If they don't like it, they just simply fuck off.
I may not agree with everything you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
If people like Ronnie is still around in Pakatan...I would say LONG LIVE BARISAN NATIONAL..
ReplyDeleteFOR PAKATAN TO RULE...DREAM ON TILL THE COW COME HOME.
HIDUP BARISAN HIDUP UMNO
HIDUP UMNO HIDUP UMNO HIDUP UMNO
One of these days when the malays got fed up of people like ronnie or antares there will be no more party barrier only Islam.
ReplyDeleteYou will see no more UMNO or PAS only muslim malay. Then only you people know where to put you mouth and brain.
While the malays is still supportive you ronnie better behave. I voted for Pakatan you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember 1969?
u can insult hassan ali as much as u like..
ReplyDeletebut don't insult ISLAM... u never gonna like what the consequences are
Q: Ronnie, I fuck ur mother...can I fuck ur wife too?
ReplyDeleteA: Yes, you can. Faith taught in Churches and Mosques...not at my house.And most definitely, not by the stick or banning things.
Q: Ronnie, can I watch porn?
A: Yes, you can. Faith taught in Churches and Mosques... outside of gouse of god you are animal.And most definitely, not by the stick or banning things.
Q: Ronnie, can I practice corruption?
A: Yes, you can. Faith taught in Churches and Mosques... outside house of god, who cares. And most definitely, not by the stick or banning things.
I think Ronnie's is one of the shareholder of alcohol drink company. That's why he act like a motherfucker. Do not condemn Islam if u do not know.
ReplyDeleteI voted u, but next GE if this kind of blogger still act like a motherfucker. I will vote my enemy....
Corruption = Gambling = Alcohol = Adultery = Killing innocent people = Prostitution.
ReplyDeleteHow come you says NO to corruption but you still says YES to alcohol and the others.... as if it really individual things...
We want clean govt.
We want healthy way of life.
We want a safer place for our family.
Stop Drink Alcohol, Save your love one.
Ronnie, u really disappointed me. You are the real junkie...
There's a lot of shit going down right now in local politics. Some of it is pretty serious stuff, as it involves human lives and the future of an entire country. Indeed, I'd say in print that we are in the midst of a civil war between the Old and New Paradigms of political power (as represented by BN and PR). BN has 52 years of inertia on its side, including the loyalty of at least 45% of the civil service (particularly the PDRM, MACC and the higher courts under CJ Zaki Azmi, an Umno appointee). BN also has the tacit support of the monarchs as well as some of the military top brass and, certainly, the Special Branch. What PR has got is the overwhelming support of the rakyat - at least 70% of the electorate, I'd venture (discounting electoral fraud, postal and phantom votes) - and at least 80% of the blogosphere. PR has also got EVOLUTION on its side. As organisms evolve towards complexity and then to a subtler level of simplicity, honesty and a sense of shared destiny favors democratic, egalitarian ideals rather than rigid, stagnant feudal forms of hereditary power.
ReplyDeleteAt a time like this, when so much is at stake, what sort of human being would raise an issue as petty and nonsensical as passing new legislation to deter Muslims from buying beer? This form of false piety is the vilest strain of hypocrisy. I doubt people like Hassan Ali are really that concerned about his fellow Muslims' moral and physical health - he just enjoys throwing his weight around and injecting fear and guilt into those hapless believers who are easily cowed by humorless, unsmiling men in white skull caps, oversized turbans, or whatever silly headgear is deemed a sign of "holiness." Nothing pisses me off more than witnessing such misbehavior. My favorite ccpassage in the New Testament (when I was a gullible teenager) was the part where Jesus chases away the merchants from the temple. Well, I would like very much to apply a flame-thrower on the rear ends of Hassan Ali types - just to give them a taste of the illusory hell that awaits munafiqs. No word is too foul to use on these evil-minded killjoys who have caused immeasurable misery to millions throughout history wherever their ilk is found. BTW, this issue has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam. The same type of oppressive, inquisitorial personality can be found lurking in the woodwork of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism and whathave you. So don't blow a fuse yelling about jihad and May 13. Tak payah lah. We are essentially manusia first before we are Malays, Chinese, Indian, dan lain lain.
Cut Ronnie Liu some slack, you guys. I don't know if he's got such strong underworld connections. Maybe he does, since he's been in politics even longer than Khir Toyo. But this blogpost isn't about Ronnie - it's about ccompulsive Control Freaks in government!
Hellow Ali
ReplyDeleteDo you need only to ban beer or alcohol near Muslim majority areas or where there are Muslims staying. Whtas the problem. Muslims don't drink. Anyway Beer is not alcoholic drink, its defined as food and beverage otherwise it wont be allowed in certain sensitif areas in other parts of the world. If you want to do something good and nice 'feel good thine', please do something about the swine fever. Go look for the pigs and clean up the shit there.
I think Muslims are wise enough to look after themselves. The bad Muslims always make it to the drinking grounds, you know where. They don't bring back their bottle of alcoholdrink to their house.
So, my advice to you Ali, please mind your own buisness, make sure your own kids don't indulge in sinful things. Leave the Muslim majority alone. Don't be a bright spark for the UBN people.
"But this blogpost isn't about Ronnie - it's about ccompulsive Control Freaks in government!"
ReplyDeleteNo, it's about stupidity of certain people who think human can do any thing and no religion should govern them. What Dr Ali do is simple - prevention is better than cure....
U wanna fuck a bitch, go ahead. Up to yourself to get HIV or genocide, but you are the root cause of such disease to spread over.... worst, you infected to innocent one.
Use condoms? yeah right.... but still it is morally wrong...
At the end of the day, prevention is better than cure.
Time to wake up and smell the roses, people. First of all, a gentle reminder to muslims that they share this planet with NON muslims. The truth is that this is a multicultural, multiracial country.
ReplyDeleteNo one in his right mind would say things like "I am hindi, I don't want to see beef on sale 100 kilometer radius of my house" Neither do you hear Buddhist say: " Eating living beings is extremely sadistic and cruel, besides being against Lord Buddha's teaching. I want a rule that everyone in this part of town eat only vegetable!
Another example "That mosque needs to go because it is noise pollution!"
Do you hear non muslim say anything like this? The answer is NO. Because we have to tolerate each other. So why can't there be reciprocation? Why is it non muslims CAN'T buy alcohol because it is offensive to some others? And what does "muslim majority" mean? Bearing in mind that >50% of this country are muslims and RAPIDLY expanding, exactly which part of this country is majority non muslim to begin with?
Isn't it simpler and less obnoxious to have a prominent notice reminder in all shops with alcohol sale to WARN muslims against buying it? Or to insist that the seller demand seeing ICs before customers purchase alcohol? Or making a law to make it illegal to sell alcohol to muslims? Do whatever you want but please do not SCREW UP non muslims ok?
If a thief has decided he wants to grab your car tonight at all cost, the steering lock, padlocks, alarm, immobilizer or whatshit is NOT GOING TO DETER HIM. The same with muslims who want to drink. It is exactly the same with MP3 music - the music producers put all kinds of digital restriction to prevent copying but in reality, it is their genuine customers who get F**Ked, while the pirates are still laughing away. So please, PLEASE do NOT do this to non muslims. Thank you.
Anyway Beer is not alcoholic drink....
ReplyDeleteWhat??? just like that? ppl dont drink beer early in the morning and that's why they dont call it food and beverage..... moron...
Ronnie, you better be sorry than .....
Ronnie, you know why Dr Ali is better person than you....
ReplyDeletebecause he guide his rakyat to the right pathway... and you don't
because he act for the best of people but you act for the best of alcohol company.
because he proposed the solution for the people but you just oppose it...
I bet Ronnie belong to underworld gangster... I am not suprise if he protects ah long too... shame on you ronnie...
ps: mistakenly voted for u
Nabi Muhammad s.a.w pernah melaknat mereka yang terbabit dengan arak ini iaitu sebanyak 10 golongan melalui sabdanya:
ReplyDelete“Rasulullah s.a.w. melaknat tentang arak, sepuluh golongan:
(1) yang memerahnya, (2) yang minta diperahkannya, (3) yang meminumnya, (4) yang membawanya, (5) yang minta dihantarinya, (6) yang menuangkannya, (7) yang menjualnya, (8) yang makan harganya, (9) yang membelinya, (10) yang minta dibelikannya."
(Hadis riwayat Tarmizi dan Ibnu Majah)
Awat lagi Ronnie? Tak paham2 ker? Your religion pun ada gak taboo.... jangan la jadi mangkuk hayun... pi la join MCA kalau x paham2 agama dan adat org lain...
Ronnie and this blogger...
ReplyDeleteu drive a car and approaching to a traffic light. suddenly, the light turn to red but no other vehicle around. will you stop or you press for more fuel? surely you have to stop even if your parent would say speed up. your life is not governed by anyone, or individual right, but simply because you are govern by law.
In this case, law = religion.
Another example "Tokey, you can not burn colok in your kedai because it is noise pollution!" or "you cannot throw rubbish from lorry in order to send dead ppl to cemetery"...
ReplyDeleteDo you hear muslim say anything like this? The answer is NO. Because muslim have to tolerate each other. But what Dr Ali do is using his power as a leader to rakyat particularly to muslim to hinder them from doing forbidden thing.
A lot of billboard or ad promoting the alocohol company but we muslim do not ban them.... because we tolerate... why can't you?
To Ronnie, use your power wisely and respect others... wish u dead by swine flu...
Ronnie the scumbag,
ReplyDeleteU just enjoys throwing your power around and injecting confusion and hate into those hapless believers who are easily cowed by so called activist to human right...
You start abusing your power.... no wonder because of you, PR will lose big in next GE.
Q: Ronnie, can rape your sister?
ReplyDeleteA: Yes, you can. Faith taught in Churches and Mosques... who cares. And most definitely, not by the stick or banning things.
Q: Ronnie, can I steal rakyat's money
A: Yes, you can. Faith taught in Churches and Mosques... outside of gouse of god you are animal.And most definitely, not by the stick or banning things.
Q: Ronnie, can I ban alcohol?
A: No, you can't. Faith taught in Churches and Mosques... outside house of god, who cares. And most definitely, not by the stick or banning things.
FUCK U RONNIE...... You really disrespect to muslim....
Ronnie the sonofbitch... how much do u get paid to protect the selling of alcohol?
ReplyDeleteYo Magick River,
ReplyDeletehow do you manage to get the pic of Ronnie's asshole?
Such a gay....
Next time, advise him to wash with with water, not only using toilet paper... It's not clean, just like his heart....
gila betul your style...
ReplyDeletemuslim yg sokong dap pun rasa terhina with your style...
susah laa nak cooperate macam ni..
i pray tt u r not malaysia
Hmmmm... the word is out from the very top... GET RONNIE!
ReplyDeleteListen, you loony ravers, why don't you channel your hostility at a REAL target - somebody TRULY EVIL - like, say, Musa Hassan or Gani Patail?
I'm not defending Ronnie Liu. Really don't know the background to this campaign against him that was initiated by the Toyol last year... but it smells like another Perak power grab.
This guy's definitely a plant, either an undercover agent or a literal vegetative plant.
ReplyDeleteThere's no Magic in Magic River ... Just Idiots
ReplyDeletefull of idiots...clearly mentioned ban liquor to the muslim...you guys non-muslim can continue to drink as much as you want...just need to source it out from somewhere..to clean up the society, something need to be done. Alcohol is bad for health..and to the society..admit it...
ReplyDeleteYour article showed the degree of your thinking...complete with the disgusted photos and what not.sheesh...
i) IF THAT'S WHAT THE MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS WANT, THEN FOLLOW LAH.
ReplyDeleteii) REMEMBER, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO KUBURKAN UMNO.
iii) THAT IS PARAMOUNT.
iv) RONNIE, JUST GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT. MOST OF US KNOW/BELIEVE U HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS.
v) FAILING WHICH.... IT'S GOODBYE PAKATAN IN SELANGOR TOO.
vi) AND HASSAN ALI WILL BE OH-SO-HAPPY BECAUSE HE GETS TO BECOME...NEARLY THE MB...AGAIN. FOR, EVIL-UMNO WILL THEN TAKE OVER SELANGOR.
epilogue....
vii) LO AND BEHOLD... HASSAN THEN JUMPS OVER TO EVIL-UMNO AND HE BECOMES EVIL-UMNO MB OF SELANGOR. ALL WE ALL LIVE HORRIBLY EVER AFTER...NO THANKS TO YOU ALL STUPID BUGGERS IN THE POSTINGS ABOVE... YES, YOU FUCKERS KNOW WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT.
4RAKYAT
Tone down. You don't over do it. You are pushing the issue too far. You had insulted 'names' which you had not relates it to someone hence left it to hinge over dangerously into insulting islam. I could vote karpal even when he say 'pemuda celaka' but never cross this line which you are about to breach. Have some understanding, nurtured some good sense or face us squarely.
ReplyDeleteMuslims are sensitive bro.
ReplyDeleteThey can't handle any criticism (especially in muslim majority states/countries).
They can't booze it up here coz its whats been promised in their version of the afterlife.
So they are just jealous. ;)
First we end UMNO, then we end PAS.
And can we once and for all agree that Islam is not a religion of peace. I laugh every time I hear a non-muslim say that. Just look at some of the threats you received above. I rest my case.
Friends (and I mean friends, even those who may temporarily perceive me as a foe :-)... this is the real virtue of the Internet! It allows each of us to "run amok" without physically damaging anything or hurting anybody, apart from our cherished beliefs, prejudices and dogmas - and that stuff is just SOFTWARE, quite easily customized, modified, updated, upgraded or deleted! As hardware, all of us equally deserve to be loved and valued as living beings and evolving souls incarnate in beautiful bodies of every shape, size and skin color. I have absolutely no issue with any creature on this fair earth, living or dead. However, many of us have to be reminded every so often to upgrade or uninstall obsolete software - and this is my way of doing so, by SHOCKING people out of their complacency. Much as I am repelled by Hassan Ali's control programs, I have no quarrel with the man himself and would be happy to serve him tea if he were to visit me. Indeed, the same applies to even the most inflated political egos like Mahathir, Najib, Nazri and Khir Toyo. I would serve them all tea if they were humble enough to visit me on equal terms as fallible, vulnerable, self-regenerating human beings - not asc pompous self-important arseholes.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, I would like to clarify that my rant is NOT directed against anyone's pet religion - I flew off the handle seeing the wickedness behind Hassan Ali's sly move to undermine the Pakatan Rakyat state government from within. Surely, if he was committed to establishing an alternative government to Umno/BN, he would put that goal above his own petty political ambitions? Anyway, having run amok with this savage rant, my anger has been discharged into cyberspace where it can only provoke and stimulate further thought and discussion. For the record, I bear none of you any ill will - even those who have unleashed threats and curses against my person or Ronnie Liu's. In cyberspace we are allowed to shout and yell at one another till the frustration is released and we can then take a good long look at ourselves... and realize how marvelously silly we can be - and remain lovable, kind, generous, helpful and forgiving human beings.
Even a hardcore opposition supporter will despise some of the comments made here. In the name of freedom of expression?? And the stupid image of an arsehole, disgusting indeed.
ReplyDeleteHassan Ali should be assassinated! Period! - Dennis.
ReplyDeleteNo, I don't mean it really. I'm just letting off steam. If I'm Harry Potter, I'll destroy all the Hassan Alis of the planet.
ReplyDeleteThe Islam that we know it, says Hasan Al-Banna's grandson Tariq Ramadan is actually the evil Wahhabi cult.
Real Islam is Jalaluddin Rumi and Al-Ghazali and their Islam of Love.
Sufism.
Priests are all pigs.
ReplyDeleteF*** all priests.
They do not deserve to exist.
Unless they are like John Paul II, Asri Zainal Abidin Perlis, Hassan Al-Banna and Tariq Ramadan.
Religion is shit if it is institutionalised.
There should be no institutionalised religion.
All institutionalised religion is evil, says Karl Marx.
Can I say....
ReplyDeleteChinese is not a race of peace. I laugh every time I hear a non-chinese say that. What they really want? Malaysia to be little China?
Go FUCK ur granddad....
"All institutionalised religion is evil, says Karl Marx."
ReplyDeleteNot another Chin Peng in making....
We Malaysian dun want communism..
darkjustice said: And the stupid image of an arsehole, disgusting indeed. Stupid image? Guess you're right, bub. Couldn't find any smart anus images on Google to feature, sorry about that. In any case, most humans have never actually seen their own arseholes (I'm sure you thank god every day for such small mercies), so I'm just doing you a favor by holding one up to you like a mirror. What's ugly isn't the arsehole itself - it's your mind, bro.
ReplyDeleteI had to delete two comments from some anonymous nutcase for his own protection. The psychic poison he injected into his words would otherwise have boomeranged on him and cause him to regret having ever existed even as a sub-atomic particle.
Antares, Fuck you man....
ReplyDeleteIf you want to be CEO of evil...., make your own world....
Talk like an asshole....
This is what happen if you voted for a moron@underworld trojan horse.... They can't ban alcohol? why? becoz u are on of the gengster...
ReplyDeleteRonnie, you shud feed your children with alcohol drink....
If DAP elect him again on next GE, my vote will go BN... be it a monkey. A monkey is better than Ronnie Liu
Antares, is that your asshole? Bend down, Ronnie is going to fuck you till dead....
ReplyDeleteBoth of you are nothing but pigs...
This is what happen if DAP elect a corrupter to represent the party...
ReplyDeleteNo wonder BN still relevant....
I have read the one that you have deleted.. You hypocrate. It is about you... The one below it about Hassan you leave it there... Hypocrates..
ReplyDeletePeople like Ronnie and you make PKR losing suppoters from the malays...... Stupid stupid.
Kudos to Dr Hassan Ali... get rid off all the communist ....
ReplyDeleteFirst they becomes underworld agent, then they become politician, finally they become politician who has share with alcohol commpany...
Antares, how much underworld gangster pay u? Stop act like a dick full of genocide.... be a good chinese...
To be fair...
ReplyDeletewhen you can ban beer selling in 7-11 in muslim majority area, can we propose to ban beef selling in mcdonald in indian majority area as well? hahahaha
Yes! you can propose to ban beef selling in INDIAN MAJORITY AREA. Why not?
ReplyDeleteThis comments list is getting more and more divisive. Looks like there are people from extreme ends of the political spectrum. I've said nuff. From Dennis.
ReplyDeleteTo those who thought that they can turn Malaysia into little China just think again.
ReplyDeleteThe Malays may have differences on political ideology but not on ISLAM. Wanna bet??? Call to slow azan volume, have a pig sty anywhere you like., Sell alcohol anywhere you like, open a brothel at your convenience. Let see what you will get.I challenge you.
While we allow you to keep the Chinese identity be grateful.
I wish the Malays here is like Indonesia Malays. Stretch your luck to far you will curse your ancestor for coming here.
Ronnie and antares and people like them can be considered kafir harbi.
ReplyDeleteCheck out the punishment for kafir harbi.
Dennis - the vilest comments are obviously left by Hassan Ali's disciples. That alone shows the quality of fcllowers he attracts. Intellectual warthogs, Malaysian Uruk-hai, no-hopers trapped in their leaky tempurungs of race and religion. So sad eh? But at least this post has drawn them out of the woodwork. I'm generally disinclined to call in professional fumigators but we may have no choice. These mental and moral termites - the product of 22 years of Mahathirism - could bring the entire nation down with their diseased psyches.
ReplyDeleteThe Orang Asli could teach these degenerate specimens a thing or two about being in harmony with nature and at peace with their own true beings.
Those who want to drink beer let it be after it is their money and their life.
ReplyDeleteThose that think drinking is against one religion then stay away from it. Why must one be so busy body trying to play Holy. Just like someone told me the raiding party during pasting month on those that did not fast. One guy told the chief of the raiding party BAGUS HAJI BUAT KERJA BAGUS JANGAN SAYA TIBA DI NERAKA SAY JUMPA HAJI. SAYA AKAN PUKUL HAJI HABIS2. SAYA DOAIN HAJI JANGAN SAMA2 DI NERAKA.
IT IS NOT THE DISAGREEMENT OF HASSAN ALI AND RONNIE THAT SPARK THE OUTRAGES COMMENT IN THIS BLOCK.
ReplyDeleteITS THE WAY ANTARES PUT FORWARD HIS DISAGREEMENT. THEY CANNOT TOLERATE THE TOO KURANG AJAR AND BANGSAT ATTITUDE OF ANTARES. WHY GO THE THE EXTENT OF PLACING THE DISGUSTING PICT AND BE PROUD OF IT. WHY CAN YOU JUST PUT UP YOU DISAGREEMENT AS NORMAL PEOPLE DO. ANTARES THINK IT IS HIS RIGHT TO DO WHAT EVER HE LIKES SO DOES OTHERS. AS A MATTER OF FACT LABELING HIM KAFIR HARBI IS ALSO THEY RIGHT WHAT THE FUSS???
SO RONNIE ATTARCT THE KURANG AJAR BANGSAT AND NO RESPECT FOR OTHERS AS HIS FOLLOWER? THAN BETTER BE THE FOLLOWER OF HASSAN ALI THEN.
SUDAH LA ANTARES YOU CROSS THE BORDER MAKING THAT STATEMENT ON HASSAN ALI.. IF YOU DARE MAKE THE SAME KIND OF STATEMENT ON NAJIB AND PLACE SOME OBSCENE PICTURE OF NAJIB AND SEE WEATHER BUKIT AMAN IS GOING TO KEEP SILWNCE.. CABAR KAU ANTARES..
SEBENARNYA KAU NI BODOH TAU DAH...BOLEH DAPAT SIJIL DBS (DAH BODOH SOMBONG)
Anon @ 9:35AM - It's good of you to speak your mind here, helps me understand better the situation. So here's a classic case of how we perceive reality differently according to our programming. You see the photo of a finger stuck in some hairy arse as "disgusting." I see it as "amusing" (actually the image was pinched from FlickR; it was posted by a user named "addicted_to_beauty" who could be a gay narcissist). You look up to authority figures like Najib as a sacred object worthy of reverence and adoration. I look upon him as a repugnant spoilt brat who deserves a mighty big spanking and definitely, desperately, The Boot.
ReplyDeleteWho is "right" and who is "wrong"? Neither! However, I don't go to YOUR blog and make silly threats against your person, whereas YOU do. So who's Kurang 'Jar here?
'The Orang Asli could teach these degenerate specimens a thing or two about being in harmony with nature and at peace with their own true beings' - Antares.
ReplyDeleteGood one. But the bulk of the Malay population is from the Temuan Orang Asli.
Just that one Temuan man went to Bintan Island, met Indian traders and founded the Johor empire, and developed a patriarchal, masculinist culture like that of the Emperors of China and Kings of India and England.
It became Srivijaya (also known as Old Johor, Melaka and finally Johor Darul Takzim).
Temuan language absorbed Sanskrit and Arabic and became Bahasa Melayu.
Out of Johor/Melaka came Perak, Selangor, Pahang and Terengganu.
From these Johor-Riaus came the sultans of Perak, Selangor, Johor, Pahang and Terengganu.
Also Hishammuddin, Mahathir (his paternal grandma who wed a Penang Mamak), his wife Hasmah, Endon, Shahrir, Tun Musa, Shahrizat (her dad was Razak's buddy), RHB, Ambank, Emkay, Sheila Majid, Ramli Ibrahim, Tajol, Nizar and Rafidah.
In the case of the above rulers, the Onns and the Noahs (Hisham's maternals) a tinge of Johorean Temuan Batin blood via Tun Perak's and Parameswara's maternals.
Many of them have Bintan Aboriginal Malay Batins Tuah and Jebat's lineage, too. Endon's son Kamaludin married into that lineage. Muar and JB's full of them.
Zakaria Deros, father of Gombak Orang Asli Museum and Istana Zakaria, proudly showed off his Temuan lineage to Samy Vellu during some curry puffs and ultra sweet tea and coffee once.
The aboriginal Kedah people of Kedah (who are Hmong aborigines from Laos), Perlis and Penang (offshoots of Kedah) evolved into a similar culture.
Examples - Abdullah (his mum is Hainanese all the way and he still loves Hainan food), Mahathir (his mum's side), KJ (Penang Mamak, loves pasembor like Dr M), Tunku, Khir Johari, Daim (part Penang Mamak), Elyas (part Penang Mamak), Amani (Sepet), Azean, Mahmud June, Zainuddin Maidin (part Penang Mamak), the Maricans and the Mericans.
The aboriginal Kelantan people of Kelantan and Patani (who are Mon people of Thailand, persecuted by the Siam, very cultured at first) evolved into a similar culture.
Examples - Ku Li, Zaid, Marina Yusuf, Rithauddeen, Nik Aziz, his gorgeous model-actress grand niece Raja Farah, Tengku Mahaleel, Ambank (partly) and Emkay (partly).
The Javanese and BUgis are offshoots of the Dayak Melanau (Taib Mahmud, Effendi, Adenan, Rashid Salleh, Deja Moss and Kuching Utara mayors) and Dayak Bidayuh (Tony Eusoff and Mak Enon) respectively.
Najib, Muhyiddin, Ghani, Hassan Ali and Raja Petra are Bugis while Hamid Albar, Noh Omar, Khalid Ibrahim and Khir Toyo are Javanese.
The Banjarese are Berunai people of Brunei and Sarawak (like Bolkiah, Anita Sarawak, Saloma, Camelia, Dayang and Abang Jo).
Khaled Nordin, Zahid Hamidi and Khir Toyo are Banjarese (and part Javanese).
The Bengkulu and Kerinci are from the Orang Seletar Aboriginal Malays of Singapore.
Muhammad Muhammad Taib is Bengkulu and Kerinci.
The Batak/Mandailing are from the Kanaq Aboriginal Malays.
Muhammad Muhammad Taib (partly), his uncle Harun Idris (the late), Ramli Ngah Talib and Hanif Omar are Mandailing and partake in the Mandailing association.
The Minangs who founded Negeri Sembilan have ancient links to the Bera or Semelai of Lake Bera.
Rosma, Dr Fazly, Kathy Ibrahim, KJ (half-Penang Mamak, he and his still very fit mum were once staunchly with Dr M), Sheikh Muzaffar, Ghafar, Rais and his award-winning hip-hopper grand-nephew Caprice are Minangs.
Kampung Melayu? That's the old name for Tanjung Puteri. Which is the old name for Johor Baru.
Cheers, Dennis.
(Political rivals can be more closely related than we think.
Late, great Kak Yasmin told us that.
Check out her posthumous filmlet 15Malaysia coming soon.
Starring KJ, Nik Aziz, Zaid and many other celebs and political celebs.
And she's one who loved rojak.
She's Jap, Chinese, Javanese, Johor-Riau and Bugis - 1 Malaysia)
This writing is disgusting. Antares hate Hassan Ali so much that he even had gut to put such a photo in his website. What kind of message you want people to see ?
ReplyDeleteSyed Muhammad - Your brain functions like a cotton bud instead of a laser. I DON'T HATE ANYBODY - NOT EVEN THE MEANEST CRIMINALS ON EARTH LIKE DICK CHENEY, ROBERT MUGABE, RUPERT MURDOCH AND MR & MRS NAJIB RAZAK. I don't hate Hassan Ali - but I definitely despise the false piety and pernicious distortion of religion he represents. His software sucks big time. The moment he allows himself to have a software upgrade and quits serving Umno's malignant and destructive divide-and-rule agenda, I'd be the first to offer him a teh tarik. You find a rare photo of someone sticking his own finger up his arse "disgusting." Well, I find Hassan Ali's vile attempt to create a fissure in the Pakatan state government in Selangor a zillion times more disgusting.
ReplyDeleteDear Antares August 7, 2009 10:36:00 AM
ReplyDeleteIn respond to your respond to Anon @ 9:35AM this is what I have to say....
"What the heck do you care This is a free country. Freedom of speech prevail. It doesnt matter where the speech was made or written. If you think you can say whatever you like so do THE anon. Your blog? So what! he want to make a statement at your blog why not!..This is a free country. Let him. As a matter of fact he can sent a photo of his ass to your email. Why cry foul?"
Ermmm Have you seen your self in a mirror lately??
Aiyah~ Easy. Malaysia Malay society always like to create primitive giant company so that many job opportunities can be created for the fellow Malays, such as the PLUS highway Tolls house, which can be easily replace by machines LOL. I would suggest, as being a super smart Chinese entrepreneur, that This Ali Man setup another primitive company which hires thousands of Malay Islam Freaks to spy on every home of the Malay family, do spot-check on these homes to see if they have obtain alcohol or other illegal shits they claimed as a joke to the world. I don't think it's the Chinese who will curse about the bans of alcohol, but those Mat Salleh from UK would surely curse the hell out of Malay for not having beers. And these dumb dumb Malay are saying they wanna be International... LOL. I just can't stop laughing while writing this.
ReplyDeleteISA = Islam Suck Anus