Comments on MAGICK RIVER: Slavery and the Eight Veils ~ by Don Harkins

Thank you, Pat! You're a very refreshing person. L...

2008-09-13T23:52:00.000+08:00

Thank you, Pat! You're a very refreshing person. Lovely blend of down-to-earth wholesomeness and open-minded curiosity :-) I have friends living in PD though the 3-hr drive is off-putting. Hope to meet you at some juncture....

Yes, I went there and read it. And said what I fel...

2008-09-13T17:07:00.000+08:00

Yes, I went there and read it. And said what I felt about it.

But you wrote it 11 years ago? Cool. That means you'd already had all this floating around in your head then.

You're a fascinating dude, Antares, you giant red binary star, the brightest in the constellation Scorpio - and so far way: about 424 light-years from Earth, even!

Pat

I've seen you do you your Dance of the Seven Veils...

2008-09-12T19:37:00.000+08:00

I've seen you do you your Dance of the Seven Veils, Pat - absolutely enchanting! ;-)

I just blogged an article I wrote 11 years ago, have you read it?

Gee, you and Paula seem to have a great deal in common. I'm indeed blessed to bump into such delectable minds in the blogosphere!

Another one I like. It helps to verbalise what I'v...

2008-09-12T13:13:00.000+08:00

Another one I like. It helps to verbalise what I've always thought - that people can only 'see' what they can understand and relate to. But so eloquently put here. It makes complete sense.

But I am left wondering about this: I don't know which veil I am at - I can relate to about and up to the 7th veil. Here, it would seem, that someone ELSE needs to tell you you are there.

Pretty heady stuff here. Magic indeed.

Pat

It's all good, Antares. No worries.I've started on...

2007-05-18T16:27:00.000+08:00

It's all good, Antares. No worries.

I've started on my 'great adventure' myself, just a couple of years ago. I've been living in wonder ever since.

Oh dear, MM... looks like I ruffled your feathers ...

2007-05-08T00:54:00.000+08:00

Oh dear, MM... looks like I ruffled your feathers (and I thought Machinists don't have such atavistic appendages :-). Okay, I was a bit out of line there, thanks for calling me out on that. I blogged Don Harkins's essay as a community service for all those who might resonate perfectly (or not so perfectly) with it - and to provoke others as yet disinclined to view reality this way. No point getting into a heated debate over perceptions, all of which are valid. To put it in context, I've been researching and mulling over different possible takes on "reality" for more than four decades - and lost count of the times I've radically changed my mind or reversed my judgment.
I'm willing to bet you'll be feeling different about things as you gather fresh data and experience along the way :-) Just wanted you to know I do appreciate your visiting my blog and leaving your stimulating and highly intelligent comments!

"So you've been only paying attention to yourself ...

2007-05-07T03:47:00.000+08:00

"So you've been only paying attention to yourself thus far."

That's quite a presumptuous statement isn't it?

I would watch the talk sometime, because I am interested in ancient cultures... and also because the history of calendars amd timekeeping was partly the subject of my degree thesis. But I saw enough to hear Lungold say that "you are the only person who can have your viewpoint" -- which is actually nothing new to me. That is why we have art, and then science, where we can share common knowledge based on reproducible observations.

We were discussing the merits of Don's article. I don't think it's really that good. First off, he got his maths wrong. It should be 6,000 people who have pierced the 6th veil. Secondly, how did he come up with the numbers in the first place? And thirdly, to quote Agent Mulder, "I want to believe", but I haven't had an alien visit me lately... and people from secret societies all try to sell me drugs and women.

That said, I've always known there were something fishy about politicians ;-)

Till then, I'm left to trusting my senses (they can be tricky though) and to arguments backed with hard (or at least persuasive) evidence.

Yo Madcap Machinist! Ian Xel Lungold the late sham...

2007-05-06T14:43:00.000+08:00

Yo Madcap Machinist! Ian Xel Lungold the late shaman/teacher of Mayan Calendar lore said in his 3-hour talk (which I've blogged for easy reference): "WHAT YOU PAY ATTENTION TO IS WHAT YOU BECOME CONSCIOUS OF." So you've been only paying attention to yourself thus far. No problem with that - except it means you haven't yet become fully conscious of the many layers of reality just beyond your own nose! That's why it sounds "lunatic fringey" to you. Perhaps reading Don Harkins's essay marks the start of an exciting journey of Greater Discovery? :-) As for Deepak Chopra: I'd probably enjoy reading his book (good writer/teacher, brilliant man) but his work is targeted at the general public and he's careful not to push his readers beyond their comfort zones. Deepak knows a great deal more than he lets on!

I loved the painting so much that I didn't read th...

2007-05-05T15:17:00.000+08:00

I loved the painting so much that I didn't read the essay, to be honest :p

OK now that I've read it, I found that the part up to the third veil was interesting... then it started to sound like a cracked pot, and yet another conspiracy theory -- which is of course the irony in the essay.

As for the meat of it, yes, I agree that more people should strive to look beyond the walls of their life.

I'm just reminded of this guy I know who works as a valet in men's washroom at a popular club (you might even know him). He's been there for seven years. He seems content, but I wonder if he ever wants to grow beyond his job, or if he has a richer life when he goes home. Then I wonder what he sees and learns every night from his corner of the world, seeing hundreds of people pass through daily to piss and shit.

But I am digressing. Maybe you'd enjoy 'How To Know God' by Deepak Chopra, discussing the stages of spirituality (like the veils Don writes about)... I found it very stimulating and, more importantly, constructive.

I agree. It's called "Ayahuasca Dream" but unfortu...

2007-05-04T19:06:00.000+08:00

I agree. It's called "Ayahuasca Dream" but unfortunately I don't know who the artist is. Don't even remember where I found it... but is that all you can say after reading Don's brilliant essay? :-)

nice painting, that first one.

2007-05-04T17:58:00.000+08:00

nice painting, that first one.